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Author:  nate.r [ Thu Jul 06, 2006 9:39 pm ]
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I have glued my sides together in a mold and all appears ok,but when I take
the body out of the mold the shape of the body is a little out,Is this normal
or should the body have kept its shape.It is a OM model guitar.My mold I got
from guitar jigs.com and it is very nice. Im new at this and any answers
would be thankful.Bill

Author:  LanceK [ Thu Jul 06, 2006 9:52 pm ]
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Hi Bill, Welcome to the OLF!

Your rims will flex until you get the linings, or Kerfings installed. It will be a bit more rigid then.
Its usualy a good idea to leave your sides blocked in your mold until after your back and top have been glued on, this will help to insure that your sides stay perfectly vertical to the top and back.

Hope this helps LanceK38905.286724537

Author:  nate.r [ Thu Jul 06, 2006 11:20 pm ]
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Thanks guys,I am learning as I go ,I do have some reference material to go
by.The one thing I didnt do is when I shaped my front and end block I kinda
did it by eye(trail and error) maybe I should have done the pull sandpaper
tecnique.Oh well alls ok except as described as above.Thanks......Nice
guitars Lance!

Author:  Michael Dale Payne [ Fri Jul 07, 2006 12:50 am ]
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I agree with Hesh. I use a turnbuckel system like this


Author:  Michael Dale Payne [ Fri Jul 07, 2006 2:22 am ]
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for several years I used 1/4" fiberglass rods in an aluminum tube with a simple compression nut setup for tensioners (is this a word ) between the cauls. In fact it has been only 6 months ago I switched to turnbuckles

Author:  nate.r [ Fri Jul 07, 2006 5:12 am ]
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Im doing a luthier mercintile kit bolt on neck.The sides were prebent but did
not fit my mold quiet right.So I bent the sides at the waist a bit and that
helped alot,Yes keeping the front and rear blocks are important.Hers some
pics.Thank you all. 2006-07-07_141141_guitar3.jpg">

Author:  LanceK [ Fri Jul 07, 2006 5:48 am ]
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Posted for Bill LanceK38905.6260763889

Author:  nate.r [ Fri Jul 07, 2006 6:34 am ]
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Thanks Hesh,Yes I will put a cap on.By the way nice guitars Hesh!

Author:  Robbie O'Brien [ Fri Jul 07, 2006 6:39 am ]
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Bill,

If you are using the LMI kit I assume it came with my instructional DVD. I show a nice spreader made from a wing nut, aluminum tube and threaded rod. This will help the sides conform to the mold correctly. Nice guitar so far. Good luck!

Author:  Todd Rose [ Fri Jul 07, 2006 1:33 pm ]
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Love your wallpaper, Todd.

Author:  Serge Poirier [ Fri Jul 07, 2006 3:11 pm ]
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Bill, your bracing is very neat!

Author:  Michael Shaw [ Fri Jul 07, 2006 4:49 pm ]
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Bill your bracing is very neat and clean. You could never get a job at Gibson. I have seen some of their old top brace jobs. Lots of squeeze out and smears on the top's. I guess they figured if you cant see it it doesn't hurt. Keep up the good work.Michael Shaw38906.0764236111

Author:  nate.r [ Fri Jul 07, 2006 9:36 pm ]
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I did use titebond for the two main X braces but I didnt like how it dries
yellow then I got the glue from LMI that dries clear ,Its a polyvinyl glue that I
really like.Thanks so much,Bill

Author:  nate.r [ Fri Jul 07, 2006 10:19 pm ]
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Ok I see,I think I may have a problem with my front block,When I did the
slight radius on the glue side I did it by using a sanding block and would
check it for fit. I think it might be slightly off in alignment,maybe I should
have done a pull sandpaper teqnique.How do you make sure the front block
is in proper alignment? (lateral) so when the neck is attached it centers up in
the bridge area?Thanks Bill...... Nice set up hesh,Did you use a band saw to
make your body blocks. Heres a pic of my back      2006-07-08_071928_gu itar2.jpg">

Author:  Brent McElroy [ Sat Jul 08, 2006 4:39 am ]
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Here's what I do.

I saw something like it somewhere and it stuck in my memory. I think it was a Huss and Dalton thing. It seems to work pretty good!
Brent

Author:  Serge Poirier [ Sat Jul 08, 2006 10:20 am ]
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Brent, i really like this kind of set up! Thanks!

Author:  Steve Kinnaird [ Sat Jul 08, 2006 1:25 pm ]
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Hey Brent,
It looks like you're doing something I contemplated for a while:
Is that mold mounted to a stand, so that the whole thing can be flipped over, top to back to top again?
It's a cool idea, and if that's what you're doing, some more pix would be great.

Steve

Author:  vpelleri [ Sun Jul 09, 2006 3:12 am ]
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Where does everyone get their forms? I'm liking the forms. I've been using the plywood with movable posts, but the forms look more sound.

Art

Author:  nate.r [ Sun Jul 09, 2006 3:15 am ]
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Hi,Art,I got mine from guitar jigs.com,Bill

Author:  Brent McElroy [ Sun Jul 09, 2006 5:11 am ]
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Steve -Yes I mount my molds on this stand. I designed it so I could glue linings on one side then filp and glue the other without waiting

I have six different molds so I made it ajustable

This is how I mount them

I also found it useful for gluing tops and backs.


I also learned I can "drive the bus" on it!!


Art - I get my molds from Home Depot

Brent

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